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	<pubDate>Mon, 08 Sep 2008 01:58:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on Vault Over Country by Malcolm</title>
		<link>http://www.droppedin.com/archive/2008/09/04/vault-over-country/#comment-1909</link>
		<dc:creator>Malcolm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Sep 2008 00:49:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sigh. Mexicano, I'm not sure what has so altered your view on humanity, whether it is living in Canada or living in Oaxaca, but, "Liberals hate people; they hate human life, and in particular they hate their own kind," is, quite possibly, the most absurd summary of an entire brand of political thought that I have ever read in my entire life. It will, no doubt, inspire a stream of vitriolic responses, which is clearly your only intention when participating on this blog.

You know, I really used to delight in getting in days-long, heated discussions on The Internet, but as I got a little older, I realized why it and, for that matter, the discussion of politics in real life and in general, really just amounts to two people furiously masturbating each other. No one ever sees the other person's point of view, no one comes away having given any thought to what the other has said, and, particularly in the case of politics, it amounts to two people comparing how many talking points they have memorized from whichever particular radio station they happen to enjoy the most.

At this point, the lube is getting everywhere, and I feel that I have indulged you long enough. This discussion is doing nothing to further serve our readers or our sponsors, and as such, I am shutting it down. Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sigh. Mexicano, I&#8217;m not sure what has so altered your view on humanity, whether it is living in Canada or living in Oaxaca, but, &#8220;Liberals hate people; they hate human life, and in particular they hate their own kind,&#8221; is, quite possibly, the most absurd summary of an entire brand of political thought that I have ever read in my entire life. It will, no doubt, inspire a stream of vitriolic responses, which is clearly your only intention when participating on this blog.</p>
<p>You know, I really used to delight in getting in days-long, heated discussions on The Internet, but as I got a little older, I realized why it and, for that matter, the discussion of politics in real life and in general, really just amounts to two people furiously masturbating each other. No one ever sees the other person&#8217;s point of view, no one comes away having given any thought to what the other has said, and, particularly in the case of politics, it amounts to two people comparing how many talking points they have memorized from whichever particular radio station they happen to enjoy the most.</p>
<p>At this point, the lube is getting everywhere, and I feel that I have indulged you long enough. This discussion is doing nothing to further serve our readers or our sponsors, and as such, I am shutting it down. Thanks.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Vault Over Country by jillian</title>
		<link>http://www.droppedin.com/archive/2008/09/04/vault-over-country/#comment-1908</link>
		<dc:creator>jillian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Sep 2008 00:48:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If by "Liberals hate people" you mean to say that liberals put stock in the ability of the structure of society to support individuals or groups of individual then you are on target; if you mean anything more or less ideological then you are truly as deluded and hateful as you have made yourself appear here. 

I, for one, would like to get back to the business of silliness and so once again, and for the third time, I am imploring you to take this talk elsewhere. I recommend the Huff Po. I hear Alec Baldwin wrote something rather humorous and insightful there recently.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If by &#8220;Liberals hate people&#8221; you mean to say that liberals put stock in the ability of the structure of society to support individuals or groups of individual then you are on target; if you mean anything more or less ideological then you are truly as deluded and hateful as you have made yourself appear here. </p>
<p>I, for one, would like to get back to the business of silliness and so once again, and for the third time, I am imploring you to take this talk elsewhere. I recommend the Huff Po. I hear Alec Baldwin wrote something rather humorous and insightful there recently.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Vault Over Country by Waywestsg</title>
		<link>http://www.droppedin.com/archive/2008/09/04/vault-over-country/#comment-1907</link>
		<dc:creator>Waywestsg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Sep 2008 00:13:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A better term is "Breeder"</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A better term is &#8220;Breeder&#8221;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Vault Over Country by mexicano</title>
		<link>http://www.droppedin.com/archive/2008/09/04/vault-over-country/#comment-1906</link>
		<dc:creator>mexicano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 23:58:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Jonna. Without realising it you´ve hit the nail squarely on the head and in doing so you´ve opened up the debate in a way I couldn´t have hoped for. You see, what this is really all about is what motivates liberals to adopt the often contradictory, usually hypocritical, almost always destructive positions they do. In ´coming clean´about your thoughts you´ve inadvertantly (or perhaps advertantly) revealed the truth. Liberals hate people; they hate human life, and in particular they hate their own kind. That´s why they are willing to overlook Obama´s sanctioning of child killing (see above); that´s why they celebrate people like Marie Stopes (eugenicist, Nazi sympathiser and leading advocate of abortion); and that´s why they happily use the term ´baby maker´as an insult. That, in short, is why I am áwfully focused´on Jillian´s original comment - it says everything anyone ever needs to know about modern ´liberalism´. It´s also why my first comment to Malcolm was - ´It´s so easy to hate, so hard to justify that hate, eh, Malcolm? Far better to be glib and flippant and hope the issue goes away. Anything to avoid explaining the reasons for your hatred - either to yourself or to your readers´. 

On a separate note, I have to admit that you and your kind are winning the debate hands down, with actions if not necessarily with words. The white western world  (for whom you reserve a very special hatred) is in headlong numerical decline and at current rates will probably cease to exist within a century or so. Of course, the planet will still be populated (or overpopulated, in your terms), but at least the hated white man will be gone, and that´s all you guys really care about, isn´t it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Jonna. Without realising it you´ve hit the nail squarely on the head and in doing so you´ve opened up the debate in a way I couldn´t have hoped for. You see, what this is really all about is what motivates liberals to adopt the often contradictory, usually hypocritical, almost always destructive positions they do. In ´coming clean´about your thoughts you´ve inadvertantly (or perhaps advertantly) revealed the truth. Liberals hate people; they hate human life, and in particular they hate their own kind. That´s why they are willing to overlook Obama´s sanctioning of child killing (see above); that´s why they celebrate people like Marie Stopes (eugenicist, Nazi sympathiser and leading advocate of abortion); and that´s why they happily use the term ´baby maker´as an insult. That, in short, is why I am áwfully focused´on Jillian´s original comment - it says everything anyone ever needs to know about modern ´liberalism´. It´s also why my first comment to Malcolm was - ´It´s so easy to hate, so hard to justify that hate, eh, Malcolm? Far better to be glib and flippant and hope the issue goes away. Anything to avoid explaining the reasons for your hatred - either to yourself or to your readers´. </p>
<p>On a separate note, I have to admit that you and your kind are winning the debate hands down, with actions if not necessarily with words. The white western world  (for whom you reserve a very special hatred) is in headlong numerical decline and at current rates will probably cease to exist within a century or so. Of course, the planet will still be populated (or overpopulated, in your terms), but at least the hated white man will be gone, and that´s all you guys really care about, isn´t it.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Vault Over Country by Waywestsg</title>
		<link>http://www.droppedin.com/archive/2008/09/04/vault-over-country/#comment-1905</link>
		<dc:creator>Waywestsg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 23:35:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I need to say it again!

To take “Sarah the Soccer Mom” and put her within a melanoma of being the next vice or president is insane! SM</description>
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<p>To take “Sarah the Soccer Mom” and put her within a melanoma of being the next vice or president is insane! SM</p>
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		<title>Comment on Vault Over Country by Waywestsg</title>
		<link>http://www.droppedin.com/archive/2008/09/04/vault-over-country/#comment-1904</link>
		<dc:creator>Waywestsg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 23:32:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Palin supports drilling in ANWR and is staunchly opposed to environmental causes.  She believes in teaching creationism in school and she argues that global warming is not the result of the activities of man.  She is a lifetime member of the NRA and she supports Bush and the continued funding of the Iraq war.  

If McCain goes down, Palin is the president.  Imagine then if you will, a possible scenerio where the Wasilla beauty queen has to sit down with Vladimir Putin and demand the withdrawal of the Russian military from Poland.  Will she look into his eyes and see the soul of a man? Putin is probably doing handsprings over the possibility of all this. To take "Sarah the Soccer Mom" and put her within a melanoma of being the next vice or president is insane!   SM</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Palin supports drilling in ANWR and is staunchly opposed to environmental causes.  She believes in teaching creationism in school and she argues that global warming is not the result of the activities of man.  She is a lifetime member of the NRA and she supports Bush and the continued funding of the Iraq war.  </p>
<p>If McCain goes down, Palin is the president.  Imagine then if you will, a possible scenerio where the Wasilla beauty queen has to sit down with Vladimir Putin and demand the withdrawal of the Russian military from Poland.  Will she look into his eyes and see the soul of a man? Putin is probably doing handsprings over the possibility of all this. To take &#8220;Sarah the Soccer Mom&#8221; and put her within a melanoma of being the next vice or president is insane!   SM</p>
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		<title>Comment on Vault Over Country by Jonna</title>
		<link>http://www.droppedin.com/archive/2008/09/04/vault-over-country/#comment-1903</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 20:31:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know, you are awfully focused on this one aspect of an offhand post by Jillian.  So, why is it that you think it is a positive thing for women to have so many babies?  Personally, I think it is offensive.  Is she oblivious to the overpopulation of this planet?  Does she think her genes are so important that they should be continued FIVE times!!  

So, you see, Jillian is quite moderate in her words. I personally make fun of anyone who has more than 2 kids, I think they should be ashamed to go out in public with them. For a politician to hold herself up as a role model simply for having all these children is absurd.  Any critter can have litters, humans are supposed to be smarter and more in control of their destiny and more aware of the effects of uncontrolled breeding on the planet and its occupants.  Listening to Palin, she crowed about her multiple births as if it were an accomplishment.  In fact, it takes no brains and no guts to have children, it takes both to be responsible and control your breeding.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know, you are awfully focused on this one aspect of an offhand post by Jillian.  So, why is it that you think it is a positive thing for women to have so many babies?  Personally, I think it is offensive.  Is she oblivious to the overpopulation of this planet?  Does she think her genes are so important that they should be continued FIVE times!!  </p>
<p>So, you see, Jillian is quite moderate in her words. I personally make fun of anyone who has more than 2 kids, I think they should be ashamed to go out in public with them. For a politician to hold herself up as a role model simply for having all these children is absurd.  Any critter can have litters, humans are supposed to be smarter and more in control of their destiny and more aware of the effects of uncontrolled breeding on the planet and its occupants.  Listening to Palin, she crowed about her multiple births as if it were an accomplishment.  In fact, it takes no brains and no guts to have children, it takes both to be responsible and control your breeding.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Vault Over Country by mexicano</title>
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		<dc:creator>mexicano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 17:53:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike, just to clarify I am in no way opposed to criticism of Palin and her selection on rational grounds. For that reason I have not, for example, defended Jillian´s accusations of her inexperience, etc.. Compared to someone like McCain she does indeed seem inexperienced (though compared to the former community leader running for the Dems she seems relatively worldly). All I challenged was Jillian´s unfortunate phraseology and her condemnation of Palin for daring to be a mother of children (hardly the crime of the century, you´d think). This seems particularly egregious coming from one of a liberal-feminist disposition.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike, just to clarify I am in no way opposed to criticism of Palin and her selection on rational grounds. For that reason I have not, for example, defended Jillian´s accusations of her inexperience, etc.. Compared to someone like McCain she does indeed seem inexperienced (though compared to the former community leader running for the Dems she seems relatively worldly). All I challenged was Jillian´s unfortunate phraseology and her condemnation of Palin for daring to be a mother of children (hardly the crime of the century, you´d think). This seems particularly egregious coming from one of a liberal-feminist disposition.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Vault Over Country by Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 16:47:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Even Palin's own State Republican leaders are very concerned about this pick:

Alaska's Republican State Senate President: Palin Not Prepared, Thought Pick Was A Joke.  "State Senate President Lyda Green said she thought it was a joke when someone called her at 6 a.m. to give her the news.  'She's not prepared to be governor. How can she be prepared to be vice president or president?' said Green, a Republican from Palin's hometown of Wasilla. 'Look at what she's done to this state. What would she do to the nation?'"  [Anchorage Daily News, 8/29/08]
 

Alaska's Republican House Speaker Has Nothing Positive To Say About Palin's Qualifications.  "State House Speaker John Harris, a Republican from Valdez, was astonished at the news. He didn't want to get into the issue of her qualifications.  'She's old enough,' Harris said. 'She's a U.S. citizen.'"  [Anchorage Daily News, 8/29/08]

This was said right after the choice was made. Of course, the republican mafia has descended upon AK and has effectively intimidated anyone from saying anything further, including the 7 ppl who were set to testify willingly in troopergate but now say they must be legally compelled to do so.

As we can see here and elsewhere... criticize Palin at your own risk.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even Palin&#8217;s own State Republican leaders are very concerned about this pick:</p>
<p>Alaska&#8217;s Republican State Senate President: Palin Not Prepared, Thought Pick Was A Joke.  &#8220;State Senate President Lyda Green said she thought it was a joke when someone called her at 6 a.m. to give her the news.  &#8216;She&#8217;s not prepared to be governor. How can she be prepared to be vice president or president?&#8217; said Green, a Republican from Palin&#8217;s hometown of Wasilla. &#8216;Look at what she&#8217;s done to this state. What would she do to the nation?&#8217;&#8221;  [Anchorage Daily News, 8/29/08]</p>
<p>Alaska&#8217;s Republican House Speaker Has Nothing Positive To Say About Palin&#8217;s Qualifications.  &#8220;State House Speaker John Harris, a Republican from Valdez, was astonished at the news. He didn&#8217;t want to get into the issue of her qualifications.  &#8216;She&#8217;s old enough,&#8217; Harris said. &#8216;She&#8217;s a U.S. citizen.&#8217;&#8221;  [Anchorage Daily News, 8/29/08]</p>
<p>This was said right after the choice was made. Of course, the republican mafia has descended upon AK and has effectively intimidated anyone from saying anything further, including the 7 ppl who were set to testify willingly in troopergate but now say they must be legally compelled to do so.</p>
<p>As we can see here and elsewhere&#8230; criticize Palin at your own risk.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Vault Over Country by mexicano</title>
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		<dc:creator>mexicano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 16:40:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You´re so right, Nancy. It´s really strange how some people see the comments section of a blog as a place to post their ... what´s that word, ah, yes ... comments. Heavens, what will they think of next - writing letters to the letters page of a newspaper? Heck, I thought that was the whole point behind blogs - some people choose to stand on a soapbox and opine while others get to opine back. Maybe I missed something, but what does seem strange is that nobody has challenged this convention on this blog until today. Stranger still that this comes in the wake of being called to account for what were rather obnoxious and offensive comments on the blogger´s behalf. 

By the way, Nancy, I see on your blog that you´re delighted that someone is pregnant. I´m happy for you but wonder how you feel about Jillian´s use of the term ´pooping´with regard to the impending birth?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You´re so right, Nancy. It´s really strange how some people see the comments section of a blog as a place to post their &#8230; what´s that word, ah, yes &#8230; comments. Heavens, what will they think of next - writing letters to the letters page of a newspaper? Heck, I thought that was the whole point behind blogs - some people choose to stand on a soapbox and opine while others get to opine back. Maybe I missed something, but what does seem strange is that nobody has challenged this convention on this blog until today. Stranger still that this comes in the wake of being called to account for what were rather obnoxious and offensive comments on the blogger´s behalf. </p>
<p>By the way, Nancy, I see on your blog that you´re delighted that someone is pregnant. I´m happy for you but wonder how you feel about Jillian´s use of the term ´pooping´with regard to the impending birth?</p>
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